Monday, March 05, 2007

The Seth Cohen Phenomenon.

(For those of you who're reading this from those regions of outer space without television, Seth Cohen is the lanky nerd from the OC, the guilty-pleasure teen drama that's actually funny for a change.)

The guy's tall and thin and wears baggy jeans ; is pretty intelligent and gets good grades, talkes fast and drawls, is amazingly funny in a chandler-type way, likes indie rock, obscure books and comic books-from Jack Kirby to Alan moore he likes them all-and he's filthy rich with a pool house and he can skateboard, he lives in sunny California, he has a sailboat which he sails alone, and he has these wonderfully un-screwed up parents.
The stuff of dreams, wouldn't you say?a king among kings. drool drool.

well, on the OC, he's this total loser, in every sense of the word.He's beaten up by the water polo jocks, the girl he likes never looks at him (i'm talking about before ryan, the beginning of the show), he's this unpopular nerd whom everybody makes fun of, the guy who hates Newport so much that he sails away to Portland to avoid another year like before.
my reason for stating all this? I just wanted to show how far apart we are. Over here, Seth would be the most popular guy in school-he'd go to fests and win and be cheered, be Head boy probably, at least a prefect, he'd have a gang of cool intellectuals and he's sit around discoursing on comic books and dostoevsky while the jocks wore duncecaps and did lines. he would mumble and drawl his way to the ladies' hearts(i know i'd love this guy), and he'd be the talk of the 'fest circuit', where he'd perform death cab for cutie and rooney and get everyone saying how unusual he was.
so why are we so different? is it because we prize intelligence and funny-ness and intellectual-giri and such-like more than sports and stuff? India (and i think Bengal specially) has this adda culture where the more obscure and unusual and incomprehendable you are, the more weird books you've read, the more eclectic your tastes, actually the more 'different' you are, the more you're prized.
i think i can guess why. maybe it's because we're so many, such a huge mass of sameness, that any individuality, any spark of originality is precious. in order to prove you're somebody, you have to be different, you have to be 'weird', in order to prevent blending in with the masses.

orkut gives me fodder for these weird opinions..look in any reasonably 'cool' person's profile and you'll see he or she has filled it up with obscure references, unknown names, music not many people like, films no one watches, pseudo-intellectual stuff that immediately makes people go..hmm, unusual guy(or gal). the person will invariably,at some point in the profile, state that his friends call him weird, or mad, or strange, etc etc.
to paraphrase one misogynist whose name I've forgotten, the one thing that's the same about everyone is that they all try to different.

42 comments:

The New Age Superhero said...

yeah.. its really "cool" when u r different and unique and oh-so-no-normal.. thts whn u get "noticed" etc etc.. wat ppl fail 2 realise is tht normalcy cannot exist.. there can be nothing like "conventional" or "normal" as each n every one of us is unique.. no 2 ppl can be same as no 2 ppl can think same.. no 2 ppl's attitude towards life can match.. thts y mebbe i'm insane to u since u dont agree 2 my logic and way of looking at things.. where as u are insane 2 me cz i dont agree wid urs.. i'll be sane only 2 those ppl who see the world with eyes similar 2 mine.. so well.. i'm a weirdo to d rest of the gang who dont agree 2 my POV! 2 sum it up... we all are different n unique n one of a kind.. the sooner everyone accepts it.. the better :)

heh? ok said...

well we do have higher stakes in being smart than the folks in the west. also the point is that cool here cannot be about athletic ability when most people are so bad at sports...that's why all this obscurantism is so popular. and one small think, coz i'm a nag. the word is incomprehensible, not incomprehendable...eeps

Dev said...

I don't agree with you one bit!
The Seth Cohen kind of guys (I know becoz I am one) are never popular. Maybe you are lucky that you are in an institution where these kinds of traits are encouraged. Most schools do not go to intellectual fests. Song and dance is the favoured competitive event, and for the so called nerds, GK quizzes and elocution are the only available events.

Just because you think that nerds are cool (I am not complaining, and am very thankful as a matter of fact), does not mean that most students in schools do. They don't make head-boys[in my school the sports-stars used to be head boys & head girls]
Ok Maybe it's different in Bengal, when compared to Bombay, and Banglore, about which I know.

And when you talk of the profiles on Orkut, you have to realise that the people, considered cool by society at large, already have other avenues for fun, and have the most conformist profiles (They will name shahrukh khan as their fav hero, and 5pointsomeone as their fav book)

It's the nerds like you and me, who have no life, who put up elaborate profiles, listing their weird interests, hoping that they will find someone online, who shares their interest and will not reject him/her for their tastes and likes, but infact will like him/her because of it.
Once again you might think that these kind of people are cool; I do so too. But the society at large is hardly capable of understanding what I like, and hence would rather label me as weird rather then like me for it.


Now my ranting is over

Red said...

well no matter how hard people try to conform or non-conform according to their varying definitions of 'cool' i think each person is unique in some way or other. i don't equate weirdness (especially if contrived) with 'cool'. but yeah, lots of people do.
still i wouldn't necessarily go by an american tv show as a true depiction of reality anywhere.

raghu said...

too much geanralisation by sukrit dada.

well, you must talk to me about wannabes someday.. hahah.
its good to noe wat u are.. and wat u like.. and most prolly ven we talk to ourself we actually understand we are different.. not all.. evry1 not unique n all.. ppl dont use their head.
let me say, erm u.. evry1 thinks psychede;ic is lsd..vel its not.
evry1 says rot smells bad.. erm i like a lil rotten smell frm the flower.
but im not sayin dis to b different.. there are many accepted norsm.. which i dont like.. thus lookin frm dat point i may b diffrent.
eg. a group of diggies wud say im a total looser to think psychedelic is not lsd..
my best frnds may think ive lost it n am goin down the wrong lane by doin psychedelic.
either way i noe i like it.. and dat matters.. i dont really care if dats bein differnt.. cos the truth is im not tryin 2 b different.. but am jus landin up to be.

well, guess wat dat guy does look cute :)
other dan dat.. in my time on orkut i surely realised orkuts not really a great place.
i most certainly wud not give too much weightage to a persons profile.
heehe.. dou i do understand ur layer theory on ur profile.. as long as u noe wat u are.. as in ders somethin ur werin a laye on..its alll okie dokie!
btw,i guess we all get a lil bhav 4 bein different.

raghu said...

i think i agree wid challenged guy.. its hard findin ppl wid similar interests.. hahah.. pink floyd comm has 170,000 members.. not evn 10 noe weat another brick in the wall means.. its funny.. :D

The New Age Superhero said...

umm.. yea raghu well said.. totally agree wid u.. even the part stating my statemnt ws bit too generalised :)

new age scheherazade said...

hey-glad that people had such 'different' opinions!
i'm sorry for the incomprehensible error on the post*head hung with shame* and i kinda agree with challenged, but then you know what? guys popular in the fest circuit really are nerds..and the ones who're prefects and stuff are nerds too..and they're really popular and get all the awards and kudos..but maybe it's only coz mine's a girls' school or coz things are different in Bengal? i'll hafta find out more.

raghu said...

tu bhi all gals skool!
lemme see.. in bss.. erm prefects ver all rounders.. c.. the ppl who are funny,play sports,debate and study well,go on camps :D
well, mots of us ver like dat..the skool was good.

raghu said...

n ya the stat counter dont look great on on the header.. erm.. put it on the sidebar.. well,dats ver evry1 puts it..or the footer.. the header looks great ven its exclusive..hoho.. let the counter b in the header if uve put it to 4 the sole reason to show off.
i had a counter to.. which was 4 show.. but it dnt wrk vel.. n i put it in the sidebar cos it seemed subtle to do so.. :D

new age scheherazade said...

you Mean guy...aarrrgh! you got that? i'll change it, then. i DID NOT put it there to show off..really..that was the easiest to modify. do you believe me?

raghu said...

eerrmm.. ya :D
nw nice name.. evrythin bettr in the blog.. all the samll changes.. comments.. header.. sidebar(puttin the counter ins the "people" section)
hahah.. kwel!

raghu said...

lol.. but den ur leo.. dnt u like 2 show off.. :D
n ya..reprieves?
only his wives ver 2 b beheaded right?
so.. either v are all women.. n ur husbands wives to be.. or u mean somethin else ven u say reprieves
either ways uve got me confused!

raghu said...

n nw.. u hvta change ur interests.. :S.. it says ur blogs name is "dairy...my foot"..heehhehe.. :D ..yes im jobless.

The New Age Superhero said...

today's times of india has enlightened us all! :P

new age scheherazade said...

you're jobless, why're you making me work so hard? i'll do it,*sigh*

raghu said...

its still wrong!
**Interests
none-why do you think my blog is named "the diary of a young girl my foot" even though i quite liked anne frank?**
galath hain na?
n wa about me re.. courage n all.. wah wah! :D
wish i had a lil courage.. uve seen scent of a woman?
as in he says..he always knows wats right.. but nvr walks the ptah cos he noes its too hard...amzing dailoyuge.. id really admire u if u walked the right path haan.. damn corageous u gotta be.. damn if are..ure great! :D

raghu said...

its still wrong!
**Interests
none-why do you think my blog is named "the diary of a young girl my foot" even though i quite liked anne frank?**
galath hain na?
n wa about me re.. courage n all.. wah wah! :D
wish i had a lil courage.. uve seen scent of a woman?
as in he says..he always knows wats right.. but nvr walks the ptah cos he noes its too hard...amzing dailoyuge.. id really admire u if u walked the right path haan.. damn corageous u gotta be.. damn if are..ure great! :D

heh? ok said...

hey, nice work :)

new age scheherazade said...

what does the last bit mean-courage... etc? anyway, i've done it, hope you're happy now!

raghu said...

i mean are you really courageous.. cos i hvnt been fortunate enuf 2 see anyone courageous so far.
or rather why do u call urself courageous?

raghu said...

or in this blog we get to see only the whining part of the girl?

new age scheherazade said...

yeah. this is the whiny blog.the courageous one's mainly in my head.and it'll stay there forever.

new age scheherazade said...

yeah. this is the whiny blog.the courageous one's mainly in my head.and it'll stay there forever.

The New Age Superhero said...

scheherazade.. am guessing raghu's the newageshahryar :P.. but u fight on woman! :P

raghu said...

oh so we get to be husband n wife? :P
:D anyway i was just pulling her leg ya.. we had a little score to settle. she irked me earlier and noe it was my time!

new age scheherazade said...

i've said it before and I'll say it till someone calls the asylum-you guys are crazy!

The New Age Superhero said...

crazy n proud of it :P

raghu said...

so after they take us to the asylum you wont call us crazy?
you really think an asylum will help?

new age scheherazade said...

not you maybe..but it'll help me. and the outside world. I just hope they let you comment on blogs from in there.where would I be otherwise...?

The New Age Superhero said...

precisely.. the kinda attention we give the l'il baby.. how will she get that otherwise? the moment the baby cries we are all there 2 flatter her n lie 2 her convincingly.. whoever does tht? :P... baby wants ppl 2 read her work n appreciate it.. if ppl dont thn baby goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. awww.. baby wants 2 be noticed... aww.. baby wants 2 be just like everyone else on ths planet :P

raghu said...

yes its good to see u've started blogging more after we have landed up on this blog.
come on ana whack sukrit with your sarcasm.
either way though we know comments make you happy.. just like other Leos .. :D

new age scheherazade said...

what can I say..you guys are so right. I'm like wax when people are nice to me..
Sukrit doesn't like being fooled, does he? who's the baby now?
sorry..bad attempt at nastiness..doesn't work when I feel so benevolent.

The New Age Superhero said...

been a baby all my life yaa.. luv being one.. will alwyz be one.. n about u fooling me wid the fake sighs.. hehe.. be happy wid ur fallacies.. i wudnt really want 2 spoil tht u kno.. like 2 see ppl all happy.. so keep up the smile sweety :)

raghu said...

damn its over ya.. you both not fighting :(

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